Two Perspectives. One Room. Better Outcomes.

Sonder Leaders was founded on a simple belief: that organizational health isn't a soft issue, it's a business one. Mike and Carly bring complementary lenses to every engagement, which means teams get challenged and supported at the same time.

Carly Glista

Carly has spent years developing something that can't be taught in a certification program, the ability to read a room. She creates the kind of psychological safety that allows teams to have the conversations they've been avoiding. Where Mike brings the business lens, Carly brings the human one.

Mike Bowles

Mike brings 35+ years of real-world leadership experience, in high-volume operations and the nonprofit sector. He's not applying frameworks from the outside. He's drawing on decades of leading people when the stakes were real and the margin for dysfunction was thin.

Two Facilitators. Every Single Time.

Most consultants work alone. Mike and Carly don't. They're both in the room for every engagement, not because it's a nice touch, but because it changes the outcome. When one person is holding the business lens and another is holding the human one simultaneously, teams get something they rarely experience: feeling both challenged and heard at the same time.

Among the First 200 Certified Working Genius Facilitators Globally

Sonder Leaders is among a select group of certified facilitators trusted to guide teams through the full Working Genius process.